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Hi, all,
(FWIW, speaking as TCCC Chair)
Henning Schulzrinne wrote:
> I think for both CFPs and job offerings, mailing lists are not the best
> vehicle since this is essentially a broadcast mechanism while the interest
> receiver group is very small for any particular item. Thus, I think that a
> database or Wiki is likely to be more appropriate.
There are no constraints about anyone on this list - or not - setting up such a
resource. However, when it becomes a "TCCC" responsibility, it falls under IEEE
and ComSoc policies. Given what I've been hearing, that seems not to fit well -
i.e., if we don't want to have to go to the ComSoc to clarify policy, or want to
make our own as a community, it might be better done as a separate entity.
Tim Moors had such a list, but appears not to be kept recent.
> In terms of rules, it appears that, so far, the consensus seems to be toward
> clarifying or amending the rules, which would seem to be a charge to the TCCC
> leadership to represent that. I frankly would prefer that in such cases the
> leadership follows the IETF WG chair model, namely distinguishing whether they
> are wearing the chair hat or just making a contribution to the discussion as an
> individual.
FWIW, I thought I had made that clear throughout (signing as "Joe (as chair)"),
but will make sure to do so on future posts at the head of the message, as with
this one.
Yes, the TCCC officers can represent this to the ComSoc. The next such meeting
will be in December. We as a community also need to decide how many critical
issues we raise to the ComSoc at one time, too.
> For what it's worth, I also consider the CFPs a waste of human bandwidth, and
> would prefer an online (web) resource for items of interest to the community,
> including CFPs, books and jobs, desirable. TCCC has a webmaster who might be
> tasked with investigating this in more detail.
We can easily set this up, but if it is done under TCCC auspices, it will remain
subject to IEEE and ComSoc policies. The benefit of that, FWIW, besides
providing resources (though we don't use them now for the mailing list, they're
offered), is that we are indemnified in that role. I.e., if denying or allowing
a post results in a lawsuit, the IEEE backs us up on that (with legal support, etc.)
Running a separate web resource that is NOT affiliated with TCCC or the IEEE
avoids IEEE/ComSoc oversight, but also eliminates their protections as well.
Again, if anyone wants to do this for the community (at their own risk), the
only requirement would be to NOT indicate it as an IEEE, ComSoc, or TCCC page.
TCCC can link to that page, and that page can be posted to this list.
Anyone who wants to jump in here, feel free...
Joe
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