2009-12-06

Re: [Tccc] Cost of attendance from developing countries / in general

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Ibrahim (My apologies for using your last name before),

habib@ccny.cuny.edu wrote:

> 1) The profit or surplus that conferences make should be minimized.
> It does not have to be 20 or 30%. Some number like 10% or 5% should be
> fine. This alone would pass on lots of savings to the attendees.

It'd be really useful to distinguish between the amount that the IEEE
expects to receive as conference 'revenue', vs. the amount the budget
includes for contingency purposes.

In the ACM these are separate and can total over 30%. The 20% number is
not unreasonable when you consider it *includes a buffer for unexpected
expenses*.

> 4)IEEE staff members are already paid by the IEEE. There is no need to charge the conference for their time.

Where do you think that money comes from? We're the IEEE - we're paying
when we use them. To use your analogy, why should other meetings,
journal subscribers, or the general membership pay for a service that
only conference attendees benefit from?

> 5) It makes a lot of sense to conduct meetings in research labs and universities as opposed to expensive 5 stars hotels.

This is 4-star out of 5 in the US. The next step down often cannot
accommodate a meeting this large.

I agree that we should consider cost when selecting a venue, but let's
not start with an assumption that research labs or universities either
can accommodate us or would be less cost effective when considered as a
whole meeting (e.g., including transportation, etc.).

> 6) Food functions and social events could be eliminated. A single social gathering could be sufficient.

Remember that these are also networking opportunities. Also keep in mind
that it's not feasible to have 600+ people descending on small local
restaurants in synchrony, which is why lunch has typically been
included. Same for coffee.

Joe
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