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habib@ccny.cuny.edu wrote:
> Joe..
> Quickly, the points are the following:
> 1) Conferences should not pay money to IEEE support staff, this will
> cut down the expenses and save money in registration fees.
Hi, Ibrahim,
I think my point is not clear. You do not want Globecom to pay for
journals, but you want the IEEE registrations to pay for IEEE staff to
support conferences. I don't think that's a consistent position.
Either all components are self-supporting, or they are not.
> 2) Universities (at least some of them) can support functions like
> Globecom and ICC. I did not say that attendees should also sleep in
> students dorms. Attendees can arrange their own hotels.
I understood that, which is why I asked for 100 or so rooms, not 1,000.
> We will gladly host Globecom or ICC at CUNY, during the summer time
> or during the winter recess for Globecom. Why does it have to be when
> school in session?? This does not make sense? ofcourse no university
> will host anyone when school is in session. ICC is already in June
> or July so that is very easy to do. Globeom can be moved to January
> and that also will be no problem to host.
This was the point I raised earlier. These conferences are already
scheduled to not overlap, and there is very little room to shift them
around. Some are in the summer, but others are not. ICC, Globecom, and
Infocom are the large Comsoc meetings, and none occur during gaps in
school schedules.
This is exactly why expecting we host them at universities doesn't work.
If we expect to hold ALL meetings at universities, or even just the
large ones, they would all synchronize to January, June, July, and
possibly early August. That is only 1/3-1/4 of the year./
> I can give you any proof you want. We have ample class rooms to hold
> sessions (50 people per room, 100 per room whatever you want), we have
> several auditoriums all over the city in our campuses, each one can host
> up to 600 and some up to8 00 people). CUNY hosts lots of meetings and
> conferences in various fields of science and humanities. So it is
> nothing new for us here.
For Globecom or most other Comsoc events, "all over the city" won't
work. We need a plenary space that can hold 1,000 within about a 5-10
minute walk of the other spaces that support 7-8 rooms of 50-100 each.
> Go to our CUNY website and see for yourself and you can also send a
> formal request to our COO and ask our adminstration to host Globecom and
> ICC and there you will have your proof.
> If there is a will there is a way.
*YOU* need to have the will. Submit a proposal to host Globecom.
Seriously. You can't just make these kind of assertions and expect us to
followup - I am doing so as chair on the finance issues, but if you want
to back up these assertions about universities, you need to do some of
the work as well.
I include in this invitation anyone on this list; if you think you can
do better, then *please* jump in. That is the best way to ensure there
is change.
Joe
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