by an author (or co-author) to a conference.
The National Science Foundation in the US has enforced such
a limit on the number of proposals that a PI can submit to
a given NSF program. I think we need to do the same with conferences.
This simple change can go a long way:
1. reduced reviewing load,
2. authors will focus on quality instead of quantity,
3. less paper "recycling",
4. and hopefully, fewer conferences!
How about we all agree: no more than 2 sigcomm'10 submissions
for any co-author?
Constantine
Petri Mähönen wrote:
> Like Tony Ephremides already mentioned the quality of conference have
> deteriorated on average, although there are (of course) also good ones
> left.
> One could try to obviously limit the flood of the papers by
> introducing some constrained resource (token) algorithm into it, as
> mentioned in various emails:
>
> * Pay paper submission fee (non-refundable)
> * Limit submission to X papers by group/person/... (which allegedly
> could solve some *claimed* institutional bias)
>
> One could say a lot about fairness of any such solution.
>
> However, I think that generally the problem is not only that there are
> (just) more good papers flooding to the conferences. It is the point
> that there are so many
> bad papers, or paper that are not tackling worthwhile problems
> submitted into conferences. This continues to be the case as long as
> the conference papers
> are seen to be a means for career, prestige, traveling to exotic
> places etc. As a TPC member and chair, I can tell you that a lot of
> time does not go to excellent papers, there is too much time used for
> papers that any decent self-critique should have stopped, and of
> course a tough cases of borderline paper decisions.
>
> FWIW, there are also fields where (a) conference papers are not given
> any value in tenure track etc. games; (b) virtually all graduate
> students can get
> poster presented in the conferences (but only poster abstract is
> published); (c) most of the talks are given by senior people or
> occasionally graduate
> students on exceptionally interesting new findings (and again these
> may or may not be published in proceedings, but those are not seen as
> "career path
> papers"). One can be a lot of opinions of that approach, but at least
> conferences tend to be places to go to hear interesting news, good
> talks from senior
> and some younger people, and there is a lot of time for discussions
> (and yes, people tend to sit in the sessions and they show up).
>
> In the present competitive situation I fail to see easy way (at least
> on TCCC level) to solve the problem, especially by asking same time
> (i) fewer papers,
> (ii) higher quality, (iii) more conferences, (iv) less conferences,
> (v) total balance between TPC backgrounds, (vi) perfect reviews etc.
>
> I think it leaves also for me an opportunity to try to find a bottle
> of wine...and not trying to solve this NP-hard problem.
>
> Only slightly more seriously, we should also be realistic what re-
> engineering we can do for conferences/quality statements/etc. I think
> Joe has been doing
> a good work on this thread trying to stay his feet on ground and
> pointing out realities and taking into account different points of
> views.
>
> Petri
>
>
>>> I'm not picking on you, but we can't solve the problem without
>>> acknowledging that something has to give, namely we can either have:
>>> - fewer papers accepted/submitted OR
>>> - more conferences OR
>>> - larger conferences.
>> Clearly, we have more submissions than good reviewers, much like we
>> have more e-mail than time to read it. The solution is that there
>> must
>> be some constrained resource attached to submissions.
>>
>> For example:
>> (i) one could limit submissions from any one author, or
>> (ii) one could require a certain review/submission ratio. Poor
>> reviewers will not be asked to review again, and will naturally stop
>> being able to submit papers.
>>
>> best,
>> -Ari
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