Re: [Tccc] Improving submissions and all that...

Indeed somebody might have picked a poor example, but that is not the
question. It is not uncommon to see disproportional submissions and
acceptance of some "prominent" persons in some of out known conferences.
Given the tight acceptance budget, it suffices to have a handful of them
to count out a large number of emerging scientists.

By the way, I for one, do not believe in double-blind review. Given the
reality on the field, one is tempted to think this is rather a sort of
self-deception... Pardon my blatant use of this word.

Waltenegus

Mischa Dohler schrieb:
> Steve, all,
>
> Multiple submissions by the same author are not a big deal, I would
> guess. Victor, taking Vincent Poor as an example of having close to 100
> papers per year is a little an unfortunate example: from my times at
> France Telecom I can confirm that, apart from his high academic
> standard, he is certainly one of those who keeps a faily close
> connection to industry. His output just confirms that he runs the show
> efficiently and at high level.
>
> I still believe that charging authors some money *prior* to submission
> would significantly aid the situation. I have just checked, I have
> handled close to 300 papers this year, from which a large (rejected)
> fraction would have likely not been submitted if some initial fee had
> been charged. We could also use this money to pay reviewers to do a
> better job (without wishing to trigger another discussion on this now).
>
> Mischa.
>
>
> Bush, Stephen F (GE, Research) wrote:
>
>> I'm curious how many industry research folks are on this list and
>> whether their interests are (or should be) included in the discussion.
>>
>> Pumping out 97 papers in one year ... and if none of it reaches (or will
>> reach) society in a meaningful way is the classic example of why papers
>> and citations are not generally held in the highest regard (in industry
>> at least).
>>
>> Number of papers and number of citations are nice, but there should be
>> an equally weighted measure of meaningful transition to something
>> useful, at some point, with the tax payers' money. Something like an
>> industry citation of an academic paper counts for 10 university
>> citations... i.e. the idea has been found to actually be of value and so
>> weighted more.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tccc-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu
>> [mailto:tccc-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Touch
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:59 AM
>> To: Victor Walrand
>> Cc: tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Tccc] Improving submissions and all that...
>>
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>> Hi, all,
>>
>> Victor Walrand wrote:
>>
>>> Take a look at the publication record of Prof. H. Vincent Poor's from
>>>
>>> Princeton for the last 2-3 years in DBLP.
>>>
>>> 2009 --> 56 papers
>>> 2008 --> 97 papers (!!!)
>>> 2007 --> 72 papers
>>>
>>> Is it really possible to author (or co-author) so many papers in a
>>> year?!?
>>>
>> I took a quick look. There are many papers with otherwise disjoint
>> author lists, and he appears to frequently be the last author. I'm not
>> sure how to interpret these results either, though.
>>
>>
>>> So are people just using his Princeton credentials to get papers
>>> accepted?
>>>
>> This presumes that his credentials are a contributing factor in
>> publication. Many of his co-authors are also from Princeton, however.
>>
>>
>>> Isn't it the responsibility of a co-author to at least be responsible
>>> for some of the content in a paper?
>>>
>> The IEEE doesn't have such a requirement, except vaguely in its Code of
>> Ethics. However, it's useful to note that all authors of a paper share
>> equally in all responsibilities of following republication rules and
>> anti-plagiarism.
>>
>> Joe
>>
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