2009-12-04

Re: [Tccc] presentations by non-authors

What an interesting discussion!

> Hi,
>
> I'm happy to have stimulated an interesting discussion. But it's becoming
> fragmented. Could I ask folks that want to discuss one of the following
> topics (all of which have spun off the original "presentations by
> non-authors" topic) to please use *different* "subject" lines:
>
> * cost of attendance from developing countries / in general
> * mixed presentation quality
> * whether the community is too split/too large
> * reputation system
> * too few interested people in the session & too little Q&A time
> * etc.
>
> It's not that I'm not interested in these issues - for many of them, I am.
> It's just that it's becoming difficult to follow the discussion.
>

I agree. However, I still believe that most of these issues are
interconnected.

> On the original topic, I was interested to hear that EDAS allows marking
> of presenters as no-show, and I like the suggestion of adding a
> "show-non-author" category. It would allow generating some state about how
> frequently this happens.
>
> But that doesn't really solve the problem, because it's too late in the
> process. Ideally, the organizers (or EDAS) need to flag when the person
> registering to give the presentation is not one of the authors. It should
> then be possible to send a mail to that person and the authors that'd say
> "Hi, we notice that the presenter of the paper is not an author, and this
> is discouraged. Would you please let us know why this is needed in this
> case? Thanks."
>
I think this idea is not easy to be implemented since most authors
register for their accepted papers as presenters. During the conference,
they do not show up for whatever reason(s)(to be discussed separately) and
sometimes without any warning. The non-author presenter simply shows up
and inform the session chair at the beginning of the session.

I belive that the increase in the number of presentations by non-authors
lately is due to the IEEE new policy "IEEE reserves the right to exclude a
paper from distribution after the conference (e.g., removal from IEEE
Xplore) if the paper is not presented at the conference."

Let's agree that it's better to have a non-author presentation than no
presentation at all.

> This policy - for venues that want to use it - would also need to be
> called out in the CFP, so there is no late surprise.
>
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One way to enforce presentations by the authors is to include it in the
policy. "exclude a paper from distribution if the paper is not presented
{by one of its authors} at the conference."

-Osama

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Osama Bazan, PhD
Post Doctoral Fellow
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Ryerson University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


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