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From: Kazem Sohraby [mailto:sohraby@uark.edu]
Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 7:28 AM
To: Arunabha Sen; Sudip Misra; SABU THAMPI; Sakib Pathan
Cc: tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: RE: [Tccc] presentations by non-authors
University site suggestion is a very good one. It has many benefits, both financially, and otherwise (student/faculty participation, research interest development for young UG students, etc.). However, scheduling may be an issue for some universities due to class or events/classes held simultaneously. Some universities have large auditoriums in addition to classrooms, some don't. Sometimes due to internal politics, appropriate facilities while available may not be easily accessible, e.g., business school auditorium vis-a-vis engineering/Science events, etc. But it should be tried with major universities first and then gradually defused at smaller ones.
Regards,
Kazem Sohraby
-----Original Message-----
From: tccc-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:tccc-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Arunabha Sen
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:49 AM
To: Sudip Misra; SABU THAMPI; Sakib Pathan
Cc: tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [Tccc] presentations by non-authors
"To rectify the situation, conferences should be returned to university
campuses where there are many classrooms that could be used as conference
rooms. The professors and students could help organize and provide services
for the conferences. Lodgings around universities typically are relatively
inexpensive. It would be possible to reduce the budget for holding
conferences and decrease the attendance fees."
I recently attended a workshop at one of the most prestigious university campus in the world (Harvard) and the registration fee was a grand total of $ 0.
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From: tccc-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu on behalf of Sudip Misra
Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 6:41 AM
To: SABU THAMPI; Sakib Pathan
Cc: tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [Tccc] presentations by non-authors
I am in total agreement with the views posted by Dr. Sabu Thampi and Dr. Sakib Pathan. High registration fees, coupled with a huge investment of funds for international travel, boarding and lodging, often makes it impossible for authors from these countries to be physically present in the conference, even if they have good work to disseminate through the conference proceedings.
Any initiative should look into the fairness issues involved for the greater community.
Regards,
Sudip Misra
Assistant Professor
IIT Kharagpur
--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Sakib Pathan <sakib.pathan@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Sakib Pathan <sakib.pathan@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tccc] presentations by non-authors
> To: "SABU THAMPI" <smtlbs@gmail.com>
> Cc: tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 5:25 AM
> *Totally agreed!! *I was about to
> write this.
>
> I'd like to note a few issues with my little experience
> if you allow me.
> It's a bit biased and in favor of the developing
> countries. This mail is not
> to hurt anybody's feelings.
>
> Yes, the 'No Show' of authors largely depends on the
> location of the
> conference. Also some other issues that I can say from my
> practical
> experience:
>
> 1. The authors from the developing countries are relatively
> less paid (or
> have lack of funds) than those of the developed countries.
> It's not always
> true that good papers/works do not come out of the
> developing/less developed
> countries. However, as attending conference is associated
> with some good
> amount of money, often the authors in these countries are
> discouraged to
> attend the conferences. They simply submit, even if it is
> accepted, they may
> find it difficult to attend the conference.
>
> 2. Sometimes the registration fees are set too high that
> they become
> burdensome and some authors, even if have the full desire
> to attend and
> present their papers, cannot go for that. I know that
> organizing conferences
> also need some money, however if it is not for getting huge
> profit, it might
> be kept to a minimum.
>
> 3. While many good conferences are taking place in many
> other countries,
> comparatively a country like Bangladesh (or some
> Asian/African countries) is
> not getting any high-standard conference. Yes, active
> people may not be
> present, qualified people may not be available, Yes, it's
> in many ways
> challenging to organize conferences (may be a practical
> research issue!) in
> these regions given hundreds of difficulties, However; such
> type of effort
> may encourage research in these parts of the world also.
>
> 4. Whatever we are doing in our fields, simply doing
> research that is not
> associated with a large set of people cannot be beneficial
> in the long run.
> While many other people have taken some conferences as a
> business (hidden or
> open), some set of people in this earth (like in these
> regions) are simply
> deprived of having this business opportunity!!
>
> We cannot expect greater good if we overlook a large set of
> people in this
> inter-connected world. One part is lagging behind means;
> the problem will
> affect you today or tomorrow.
>
> Give this huge population some share and try to make some
> type of
> equilibrium so that many other social issues, global
> issues, poverty,
> extremism, etc. are also alleviated with the 'No Show of
> Authors' issue.
>
> [You may find this information useful if you take into
> account the papers
> from the authors from developing/less developed countries]
>
> Best Regards,
> Sakib
>
> --
> Al-Sakib Khan Pathan, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Computer Science and Engineering
> BRAC University
> 66 Mohakhali Dhaka 1212 Bangladesh
> Tel: 880-2-882-4051 Ext. 4026, Cell: +88 01819477533
> spathan@ieee.org,
> spathan@bracu.ac.bd
> http://faculty.bracu.ac.bd/~spathan/
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:59 PM, SABU THAMPI <smtlbs@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > please do not forget the authors from third world
> countries. Most of the
> > authors meet the expenses for registration from their
> pockets. How they can
> > come and present their ideas in the Conference by
> taking money
> > from their pockets for the journey and accommodation.
> The Government funds
> > are very limited.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Sabu M. Thampi, M.S, M.E., Ph.D
> > Mob: +919447103005
> > smtlbs@yahoo.co.in;
> smtlbs@gmail.com,
> smtlbs@in.com
> > http://in.linkedin.com/pub/dr-sabu-m-thampi-ph-d/11/30/18a
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