Re: [Tccc] presentations by non-authors

>From my experience in attending conferences, the biggest problem I face
(ignoring the inflated costs and the remote locations) is the *quality* of
the presentations. This is irrespective of whether the presenter is the
first author, the fifth author, or a random colleague. To have a successful
conference, in addition to being able to meet authors and ask questions, the
quality of the presentations is just as important. In the future, maybe one
could design conference submissions where a 15-20min video presentation is
also uploaded alongside the paper submission. Both would be reviewed and the
decision to accept/reject a paper would be based on both. Comments would be
returned to the authors regarding their presentation. Some (or all) of the
other great suggestions would also be in place but maybe a polished video
presentation (along with questions to the author via video-conferencing)
could be used as a last resort in extreme cases. In other cases where there
are obvious (and seemingly deliberate) violations, the paper should just be
withdrawn. I would argue that this would raise the quality of the papers,
the talks and the conferences in general. The submitted presentations, while
being an additional overhead for reviewers, might actually speed up the
review process for some papers.

Best,
Karim

==
Karim A. Mattar, PhD Candidate
Computer Science, Boston University
http://cs-people.bu.edu/kmattar/
Email: kmattar@cs.bu.edu <kmattar%40cs.bu.edu>

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Arunabha Sen <arunabha.sen@asu.edu> wrote:

> "To rectify the situation, conferences should be returned to university
> campuses where there are many classrooms that could be used as conference
> rooms. The professors and students could help organize and provide services
> for the conferences. Lodgings around universities typically are relatively
> inexpensive. It would be possible to reduce the budget for holding
> conferences and decrease the attendance fees."
>
> I recently attended a workshop at one of the most prestigious university
> campus in the world (Harvard) and the registration fee was a grand total of
> $ 0.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: tccc-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu on behalf of Sudip Misra
> Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 6:41 AM
> To: SABU THAMPI; Sakib Pathan
> Cc: tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Tccc] presentations by non-authors
>
>
>
> I am in total agreement with the views posted by Dr. Sabu Thampi and Dr.
> Sakib Pathan. High registration fees, coupled with a huge investment of
> funds for international travel, boarding and lodging, often makes it
> impossible for authors from these countries to be physically present in the
> conference, even if they have good work to disseminate through the
> conference proceedings.
>
> Any initiative should look into the fairness issues involved for the
> greater community.
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Misra
> Assistant Professor
> IIT Kharagpur
>
> --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Sakib Pathan <sakib.pathan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Sakib Pathan <sakib.pathan@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Tccc] presentations by non-authors
> > To: "SABU THAMPI" <smtlbs@gmail.com>
> > Cc: tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> > Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 5:25 AM
> > *Totally agreed!! *I was about to
> > write this.
> >
> > I'd like to note a few issues with my little experience
> > if you allow me.
> > It's a bit biased and in favor of the developing
> > countries. This mail is not
> > to hurt anybody's feelings.
> >
> > Yes, the 'No Show' of authors largely depends on the
> > location of the
> > conference. Also some other issues that I can say from my
> > practical
> > experience:
> >
> > 1. The authors from the developing countries are relatively
> > less paid (or
> > have lack of funds) than those of the developed countries.
> > It's not always
> > true that good papers/works do not come out of the
> > developing/less developed
> > countries. However, as attending conference is associated
> > with some good
> > amount of money, often the authors in these countries are
> > discouraged to
> > attend the conferences. They simply submit, even if it is
> > accepted, they may
> > find it difficult to attend the conference.
> >
> > 2. Sometimes the registration fees are set too high that
> > they become
> > burdensome and some authors, even if have the full desire
> > to attend and
> > present their papers, cannot go for that. I know that
> > organizing conferences
> > also need some money, however if it is not for getting huge
> > profit, it might
> > be kept to a minimum.
> >
> > 3. While many good conferences are taking place in many
> > other countries,
> > comparatively a country like Bangladesh (or some
> > Asian/African countries) is
> > not getting any high-standard conference. Yes, active
> > people may not be
> > present, qualified people may not be available, Yes, it's
> > in many ways
> > challenging to organize conferences (may be a practical
> > research issue!) in
> > these regions given hundreds of difficulties, However; such
> > type of effort
> > may encourage research in these parts of the world also.
> >
> > 4. Whatever we are doing in our fields, simply doing
> > research that is not
> > associated with a large set of people cannot be beneficial
> > in the long run.
> > While many other people have taken some conferences as a
> > business (hidden or
> > open), some set of people in this earth (like in these
> > regions) are simply
> > deprived of having this business opportunity!!
> >
> > We cannot expect greater good if we overlook a large set of
> > people in this
> > inter-connected world. One part is lagging behind means;
> > the problem will
> > affect you today or tomorrow.
> >
> > Give this huge population some share and try to make some
> > type of
> > equilibrium so that many other social issues, global
> > issues, poverty,
> > extremism, etc. are also alleviated with the 'No Show of
> > Authors' issue.
> >
> > [You may find this information useful if you take into
> > account the papers
> > from the authors from developing/less developed countries]
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Sakib
> >
> > --
> > Al-Sakib Khan Pathan, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Computer Science and Engineering
> > BRAC University
> > 66 Mohakhali Dhaka 1212 Bangladesh
> > Tel: 880-2-882-4051 Ext. 4026, Cell: +88 01819477533
> > spathan@ieee.org,
> > spathan@bracu.ac.bd
> > http://faculty.bracu.ac.bd/~spathan/<http://faculty.bracu.ac.bd/%7Espathan/>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:59 PM, SABU THAMPI <smtlbs@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > please do not forget the authors from third world
> > countries. Most of the
> > > authors meet the expenses for registration from their
> > pockets. How they can
> > > come and present their ideas in the Conference by
> > taking money
> > > from their pockets for the journey and accommodation.
> > The Government funds
> > > are very limited.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dr. Sabu M. Thampi, M.S, M.E., Ph.D
> > > Mob: +919447103005
> > > smtlbs@yahoo.co.in;
> > smtlbs@gmail.com,
> > smtlbs@in.com
> > > http://in.linkedin.com/pub/dr-sabu-m-thampi-ph-d/11/30/18a
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