areas stay. We have had to
fact that also in SECON (Rome) and DySPAN lately.
I would prefer to go for "soft push" for saying that in principle the
*authors* should present their
papers, and in the case of blatant and continuous violation of this
rule, chairs can take an action
(up to taking paper out of Explorer distribution). But this should be
done after serious violation(s).
In fact, the current IEEE ruling stating that papers must be presented
or otherwise there is
a possibility that chairs decide that it is not going to be in Explorer
was implicitly assuming that
the paper is presented by one of the authors. It did not come to serious
consideration that this
would not be the case.
The gray-ish area stays, however, almost inevitably. One needs to use a
bit of common sense
and judgment to gauge how reasonable and believable the reasons for not
presenting are. I do
not necessarily have a big problem sometimes on this. For example this
year I was chairing
a session and we had simply an excellent substitute. He had been really
briefed into the paper,
was also working in the field etc. Simply a good presentation and was
able to answer the questions.
This was much more better than another case, where we had an author, who
was presenting
probably 3-5 papers written by his students, and was not able to answer
many of the questions
although being nominally the author. So if the annoyance level is
generated by "not able to answer
questions" argument (alone), then having the author does not necessarily
guarantee anything.
My take on the serious violations on the game rules would be repeated
non-author presentations,
especially in the mode "we will send one person to present all 10 papers
from our institute". I know
that for many this might be a funding issue etc., but regardless these
are typically the problem
cases. Occasional covers are not, but almost an institutional strategies
to send only one presenter
for a flood of papers typically ends up to the situation what Lars was
describing.
My take from 4-6 conferences I have been more deeply involved in is
following:
* Few cases with very believable and good reasons: sudden illness,
institutional travel restrictions
(couple for flu epidemics, one for sudden cost reduction reasons), and I
think I had even one
surprise wedding. These people were also making a pre-contact on warning
* More cases with no forewarning at all, and mixed bag of explanations.
* About 3-5 cases, where I was spotting this sort of maximal number of
paper for minimal number
of presenters. Thus having only one person presenting huge number of
papers from the same
institution. One case was serious enough that I had a friendly
discussion with the person on trying
to understand a logic and to tell that this is not really what the
community and conferences are
expecting.
-- Petri
> While I agree with the basic idea, as you say, this is a judgment
> call per case, under rare circumstances.
>
> We had very few (<=3) non-author presentations at WoWMoM this year;
> some people simply had travel bans from their institutions due to
> swine flu. (Now, it is an interesting question how to count travel
> bans due to budget; I'd say this is simply different.)
>
> So, while I basically agree with you that an author should come and
> make all effort to present, a gray-ish area will remain.
>
> Btw, the conference venue may also have an impact on how many people
> make the effort or are allowed to go. "May I go to Hawaii, I got
> this paper there..." may cause some raised eyebrows.
>
> It would be interesting to sample this over different conferences
> and venues to understand the origins of the problem.
>
> That said, I have seen repeated inquiries this year, asking me what
> happens if a person gets a paper accepted and cannot present. So,
> we probably need to take some action.
>
> Joerg
>
> Gaurav Somani wrote:
>
>> Very true. A restriction on at least one author registration should be
>> modified to at least one author attendee. In any case there is a problem
>> regarding their presence than the presentation should be directly uploaded
>> instead of presenting by anyone. A conference has a main motive of
>> discussing the issues and getting feedback on your work.
>>
>> Gaurav Somani
>> LNMIIT, Jaipur
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> in the past, we had problems that accepted papers didn't get presented,
>>> when authors would not show up at the conference. This has since been fixed,
>>> usually by requiring a presentation before accepted papers are published in
>>> the digital library.
>>>
>>> My impression at GLOBECOM this year is that roughly 1/3 of the papers are
>>> presented by someone other than the authors. This usually means that it is
>>> impossible to ask any substantial questions. Several authors actually
>>> directly end with a slide that says "send questions to the authors by
>>> email."
>>>
>>> One of the main attractions of attending a conference IMO is being able to
>>> interact with the authors, both in the session and during the breaks. When
>>> authors aren't here, that's not possible and the value of the conference is
>>> greatly diminished. I might as well watch a YouTube video of the talk.
>>>
>>> (I do understand that sometimes visa issues, etc. can prevent an author
>>> from attending a conference on short notice. But I don't believe this
>>> explains the large number of cases I see here.)
>>>
>>> An easy fix would be to require presentation of a paper *by an author*
>>> before it's published. I'm wondering what others think of this idea?
>>>
>>> Lars
>>>
>>>
>>>
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