2010-01-04

Re: [Tccc] summary of current conference concerns v4

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Henning Schulzrinne wrote:
> More curiosity than anything concrete, I think. For example, one could draw conclusions about specific conferences:
>
> - For conference AO (author-only), almost all the attendees are
> authors (even if they are not speakers), so presumably people only
> attend when they have a paper, rather than to learn from other papers,
> the panels or the hallway discussions. (Or they can't get travel funding
> unless they have a paper at the event. Or the event is of the workshop
> kind where more or less all participants are invited to speak.)

So there are at least three conclusions:
- write only (to present, not to learn/interact)
- fund limited
- everyone talks anyway

Even when "write only" is the driving cause, I doubt attendees don't
learn anything from others at a meeting.

> - For conference CE (community event), a large fraction of the
> attendees are *not* authors, so either the conference is a "networking"
> event where people expect to meet others or they consider the papers and
> other events interesting enough to attend without the "excuse" of having
> to show up. Or the event is close by a major concentration of networking
> research or industry, and it beats yet another speakerphone meeting in
> the home office. Or the meeting is a venue for other activities, such as
> IEEE committee and board meetings. Or the meeting is in Hawaii in winter..

Again, many reasons.

> I think you'd also want a break down by demographics (PhD students,
> industry, faculty).
>
> But we might also learn something about how conferences are seen in
> general.

Given the variety of potential causes, it'd be difficult to draw
conclusions without deeper investigation (and the deeper we go, the more
likely we'll be relying on self-reported info, which is notoriously
unreliable).

> If conferences of type AO are dominant, maybe conferences are
> seen mainly as a vehicle to get a paper into the electronic record (and
> a line item on the resume), i.e., they fulfill roles that are largely
> satisfied by journals in other disciplines.

Even if AO are dominant, AND if they are write-only, that doesn't mean
they don't serve a different purpose than a journal. As noted above,
even when publication is the key driving factor, attendees gain much
more from interaction at the meeting, even when that isn't what they
intended, AFAICT.

Joe

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