2010-06-02

Re: [Tccc] Researcher position at (business) - posting (and WikiCFP)

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Tarik Taleb wrote:
> Hi All
>
> If the group can decide for banning CFPs, why not allowing the group
> to decide for allowing (all types) of job posts, and perhaps
> redefining policies.

The group can decide what it wants subject to IEEE ComSoc policies. Getting
those changed requires involving the ComSoc, e.g., at the next Globecom or ICC,
and raising as a change to the Board of Directors.

Joe

> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>>
>> If CFPs are not of interest to this group, we can ban them, if that's the
>> group's decision.
>>
>> Note that we cannot ban those directly involved with the IEEE, and that this
>> would require additional volunteer effort to moderate the list contents.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Jakob Eriksson wrote:
>>> I agree with the previous speakers. The CFPs that constantly flood my inbox are hardly ever of any use, but the occasional job posting can be very useful to my students. If we're banning research job postings, then let's ban the CFPs too.
>>>
>>> On that note, I went googling for a better solution. Some of you may find this free site helpful, I know I did:
>>>
>>> http://www.wikicfp.com/
>>>
>>> In a few minutes, I was able to collect a personal list of CFPs for ~20 conferences that I'm interested in. One could ask for many more features than this site has to offer, but it does do the basic job quite well!
>>>
>>> - Jakob
>>>
>>> On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Sohraby, Khosrow wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Nitin and Roch. I guess the main (and probably only reason) is economics! Students who are looking for a job should become IEEE members and subscrible to IEEE venues which advertise job postings. It does not matter if they cannot afford it!
>>>>
>>>> I do not agree with this approach, but I guess IEEE is also watching its bottomeline!
>>>>
>>>> "already provide venues (as a revenue source) for such posts (e.g.,
>>>> advertisements in IEEE Communications and IEEE Network, and sale of their email
>>>> lists)."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Khosrow
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: tccc-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu on behalf of Roch Guerin
>>>> Sent: Wed 6/2/2010 3:00 PM
>>>> To: Joe Touch
>>>> Cc: tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu; Nitin H. Vaidya
>>>> Subject: Re: [Tccc] Researcher position at (business) - posting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> The risk is that this further decreases the value of being on the TCCC
>>>> list for many current members, and not just students, which when
>>>> combined with the flood of not necessarily very useful CFPs may end-up
>>>> tilting into negative territory the overall value of being a member of
>>>> the list. Since being on the list is in practice pretty much how one
>>>> becomes a TCCC member, this seems like a pretty effective way to reduce
>>>> membership. I'm assuming that's the goal, right? ;-}
>>>>
>>>> Roch
>>>>
>>>> Joe Touch wrote:
>>>>> Hi, Nitin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nitin H. Vaidya wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Joe:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The TCCC mailing list is also open to other postings of potential
>>>>>>>> interest to its members, which include job offers, and RFIs or RFPs in
>>>>>>>> areas of technical interest to TCCC members.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that this will be corrected very shortly; commercial posts are prohibited
>>>>>>> by IEEE ComSoc email policy.
>>>>>>>
>>> Jakob Eriksson
>>> Assistant Professor, University of Illinois at Chicago
>>> phone: (312)77-JAKOB
>>> 851 S Morgan (M/C 152), Room 1120 SEO, Chicago, IL 60607-7053
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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