2010-07-23

Re: [Tccc] Different community, similar problems? (Henning Schulzrinne)

Sue Moon wrote:
> Some pluses about the conf-centered style.
> - Workshops draw attention to a new rising field
> and offers an opportunity for people to gather and discuss.
> Creating a journal in a very agile manner would be hard.
>
This is only relevant for (as you say) new workshops, which typically
are NOT that difficult to get accepted into...
> - I can follow what's happening in the field by checking out
> a few top conference proceedings.
>
The top conferences aren't all that agile...

> A few minuses:
> - Artificial constraint on when we publish
>
Except in the case there is only a single relevant "top" conference in
your field, I would disagree - at least in computer security, there are
numerous conferences sprinkled throughout the year, and in particular if
you are (as I am) content with "good" (and not only "top) conferences,
there is "always" a deadline looming when a paper is nearing completion.
> - No chance for a rebuttal, especially to a review that's unfair or
> in some cases wrong or flawed
>
True, but you normally don't get a much of a chance of a rebuttal if
your journal article is rejected outright.
> - Extra travel overhead for TPC meetings (not green!!)
>
Again, this is only done at some top conferences - I've never
experienced it at any of the TPCs I've participated in (that may of
course say something about me as well, though...) - also, these face TPC
meetings are also used as an argument to increase quality of review
decisions, and could possibly be held as audio/video conferences.
> - Much delay in publication, especially when authors target
> premium conferences with low acceptance ratios.
>
Even compared with these conferences, the delays you might experience at
some journals are still worse (a colleague submitted an article to
Computers & Security in early 2005, and didn't get the verdict until
well into 2007 - along with a complaint that no papers from 2006 were
cited...
> - Those who can stay up the night before a deadline have advantage.
> (Yeah you should not work only the night before, but we're all human
> and there's always some last-minute improvement one can do.
> Particularly challenging as we grow old.)
>
I've never stayed up the night before a deadline in my life - again,
probably says more about me...

A final comment about the VLDB review alternative - yes, I would also
find an alternative conference if I missed the "final" deadline...

Martin Gilje Jaatun

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