2009-12-15

Re: [Tccc] Improving submissions and all that...

Steve, all,

Multiple submissions by the same author are not a big deal, I would
guess. Victor, taking Vincent Poor as an example of having close to 100
papers per year is a little an unfortunate example: from my times at
France Telecom I can confirm that, apart from his high academic
standard, he is certainly one of those who keeps a faily close
connection to industry. His output just confirms that he runs the show
efficiently and at high level.

I still believe that charging authors some money *prior* to submission
would significantly aid the situation. I have just checked, I have
handled close to 300 papers this year, from which a large (rejected)
fraction would have likely not been submitted if some initial fee had
been charged. We could also use this money to pay reviewers to do a
better job (without wishing to trigger another discussion on this now).

Mischa.


Bush, Stephen F (GE, Research) wrote:
> I'm curious how many industry research folks are on this list and
> whether their interests are (or should be) included in the discussion.
>
> Pumping out 97 papers in one year ... and if none of it reaches (or will
> reach) society in a meaningful way is the classic example of why papers
> and citations are not generally held in the highest regard (in industry
> at least).
>
> Number of papers and number of citations are nice, but there should be
> an equally weighted measure of meaningful transition to something
> useful, at some point, with the tax payers' money. Something like an
> industry citation of an academic paper counts for 10 university
> citations... i.e. the idea has been found to actually be of value and so
> weighted more.
>
> Steve
>
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> [mailto:tccc-bounces@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Touch
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:59 AM
> To: Victor Walrand
> Cc: tccc@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Tccc] Improving submissions and all that...
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> Hi, all,
>
> Victor Walrand wrote:
>> Take a look at the publication record of Prof. H. Vincent Poor's from
>
>> Princeton for the last 2-3 years in DBLP.
>>
>> 2009 --> 56 papers
>> 2008 --> 97 papers (!!!)
>> 2007 --> 72 papers
>>
>> Is it really possible to author (or co-author) so many papers in a
>> year?!?
>
> I took a quick look. There are many papers with otherwise disjoint
> author lists, and he appears to frequently be the last author. I'm not
> sure how to interpret these results either, though.
>
>> So are people just using his Princeton credentials to get papers
>> accepted?
>
> This presumes that his credentials are a contributing factor in
> publication. Many of his co-authors are also from Princeton, however.
>
>> Isn't it the responsibility of a co-author to at least be responsible
>> for some of the content in a paper?
>
> The IEEE doesn't have such a requirement, except vaguely in its Code of
> Ethics. However, it's useful to note that all authors of a paper share
> equally in all responsibilities of following republication rules and
> anti-plagiarism.
>
> Joe
>
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