2009-12-05

Re: [Tccc] Regarding presentation quality (was: presentations by non-authors)

Again my little experience is used to combine these words …

1. Best Paper/Best Contribution can surely be selected before the actual
presentation. Many people have very good writing capability while their
speaking may be problematic. I know someone who has stuttering problem
(which ruins his oral presentation), however if you read his articles (any
type of), you may feel that the right word is placed in the right place. A
technical researcher/scientist's main contribution is through written words
(the presentation style used there) and works, not based on his appearance,
voice, presentation capability with nice English. I am not mapping the
people in earth, but have you noticed that many Indians/Bangladeshis
(*considering
them as they form a large set of humankind*) have a certain type of accent
which does not sometimes add to a good oral presentation; however when they
write something that really stirs the field!

2. If "Oral presentation" gets a good portion of marks for choosing Best
contribution (?), then some of the finest contributions may not get the
recognition. Many scientists are introvert (psychological term) and may not
feel easy in front of a microphone or people.

3. Even if the 'Best' thing is decided early, the procedure through which it
is done might really be questionable. Being a recipient of one or two so so
'Best' things, I don't mind to receive a 'Best' thing, just a few days ago
when I was technically a student [well, still now a student of knowledge],
that type of thing really encouraged me and all my fellows in my
surroundings. However, the main point is the way the 'Best' thing is
selected. I am not going to criticize my respectable elders or delve into
politics, but I guess in many cases elders take their age to be a prime
factor over their current state of knowledge.

*Age is a minor factor in acquiring knowledge. Those who take it as the
prime factor may need more age to get the knowledge.* :-)

Respect for all of you, this is really a fruitful discussion that might give
us some new thoughts how we should view the future
networking/research/conference community.

Best Regards,
Sakib

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>wrote:

> There are three legitimate reasons:
>
> (1) logistics: if you want a plaque, you can't wait until after all the
> presentations;
>
> (2) timing: often, the best-paper awardee is scheduled early in the
> conference, to avoid accidentally scheduling it as the last paper on Friday
> afternoon;
>
> (3) impact: the legitimate reason - if the best paper award is meant to
> recognize the paper most likely to have a long-term impact, presentation is
> not really a criterion. Just because the presenter was a nervous PhD student
> who mumbled the presentation read off a sheet word-by-word (has
> happened...), this doesn't diminish the technical impact or elegance.
>
> I do think there should be a recognition of some sort for "best
> presentation", although that's a tough call to make. Featuring the
> presentation as a video on the conference home page might be a good way to
> highlight such presentations.
>
> Henning
>
>
> >
> > An off-topic: I have also noted that some conference boards decide on
> > the best papers even before the papers are presented during an event. It
> > makes me wonder if the judges make their conclusions on a simple reading
> > the submitted text or what? If something should be awarded at a
> > conference (which I see as a place to present something creatively,
> > discuss it with peers and maybe answer some tricky questions), it is a
> > nonsense not to include author's public performance in front of the
> > audience into the 'best paper awards'.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Miroslav Skoric
> >
> > --
> > (tutorial instructor:
> >
> > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/FBB.html
> > http://www.iaeng.org/IMECS2009
> > http://www.iaria.org/conferences2008/ICWMC08.html
> > http://www.wseas.org/conferences/2008/greece/education/
> > http://www.wseas.us/conferences/2009/rodos/education)
> >
> >
> >
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