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> 1- reducing non-author presenters
> ACTION: it seems like the most direct solution would be to
> change the Comsoc requirements for a "full-time registration per
> paper" to state that this must be a named author, and to
> allow the existing rules for exceptions (at the
> discretion of the chairs) to address unusual cases.
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> +STATUS: The Comsoc is implementing this change.
Sorry, but when this did become a "consensus" opinion?
I remember one person who proposed that, and precisely that is what led us
into the discussion about cost. The most likely reason why many papers are
presented by non-authors is precisely cost. It seems that the only change
ComSoc likes is one that appears to lead to more research (tax payers)
money being spent on trips. You do see that, don't you?
It does not seem appropriate for example to send 4 people from Europe or
Asia to Hawaii to present related papers written by collegues working in
related areas. Sending 2 or one to present all 4 papers saves a lot of
money, obviously. Clearly, if these presenters do their homework, they can
be very well prepared for any question on their slides. The real solution
is to require COMPETENT presenters, capable of answering reasonable
questions from the audience. Some authors are competent some aren't. Some
non-authors are competent, some aren't. The chair can decide that and
write a report on that.
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> 2- support for resource-challenged authors
> ACTION: TCCC should identify resources for such authors
> to be able to attend meetings in person, or to present
> at meetings where attendance isn't possible.
>
> +STATUS: The TCCC is updating our web pages with this resource,
> also including pointers for underrepresented groups. Please
> contact Sonia Fahmy, our vice chair, with pointers.
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> 3- meeting costs
> - cost trends
> +STATUS: to be completed (any volunteers?
> this info is online)
>
> - costs associated with executive committee members
> +STATUS: Fred Bauer has confirmed with various
> other Comsoc officers that Comsoc meeting
> costs, including registrations and food,
> are charged to the Comsoc, not to the meeting.
Didn't Fred Bauer also said that at least 50% of the ComSoc budget comes
from the conferences? If so, these meetings ultimately ARE charged to the
conferences. Because they are charged to a budget which is loaded at least
partially with conference money. Let us not insult people's intelligence
now. And due money is even more sensitive since it is normally paid from
own pocket by all members.
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> - costs associated with other free registrations
> +STATUS: Fred Bauer provided example budgets
> and their corresponding registrations. These
> are representative of recent meetings.
Didn't Fred use a hypothetical small meeting, with 100 or so
registartions? That seems to be quite different from a 2000 registration
meeting like ICC/ComSoc.
And it is beyond me why should any one accept a hypothetical budget made
with hypothetical numbers as a substitute for the real thing.
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> - other ways to reduce costs
Why not eliminate or at least reduce F2F administrative meetings. The
money saved may be passed on to conferences. Wuuld that work?
What about the cost-cutting measure involving economy flying for the
remaining F2F meetings. That may also save some money.
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> - university locations
> +STATUS: The Comsoc will continue to
> explore such locations for future meetings,
> although recent experience has confirmed that
> such locations do not result in lower total
> costs.
>
> - LEAN meetings (bag lunches, etc.)
> +STATUS: The Comsoc has suggested that such
> meeting styles would reduce the quality of the
> IEEE and Comsoc reputation. TCCC is committed to
> encouraging the Comsoc to explore this style
> on an experimental basis.
>
> - virtual/remote presentations
> +STATUS: The Comsoc is exploring this issue.
> Current estimates of the net effect is that it
> may increase the registration costs for
> in-person attendees, e.g., remote attendees have
> lower costs at the expense of not amortizing
> fixed costs over the entire author pool.
Sorry, but that is easily fixed by charging the remote presenters the real
cost. No one is suggesting they should be subsidised. With all the travel
money they save they likely can pay the true cost of their presentations
and still save money overall.
Virgilio
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